March 17

Comparing Zionism with Naziism (Zionazi's or Nazionists)

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On this page I shall piece together my perspective on the ‘middle east conflict’ — NOT to resolve the conflict from the major groups involved…
(as unfortunately that appears impossible from their current paradigms of experience)
…rather, I attempt to present the narrative that I believe leads to a vision of humanistic justice regardless of collective identity, group affiliation, dogmatic bias or political correctness.
It’s high time to drop the chains of group-think ideology; of ‘us vs them’.
(All links on this page open new browser windows. Page to be developed over time.)

Definitions

I present my definitions, so they can be evolved and rebutted — and my perspective communicated.

Defining Zionism

There seems to be several versions of Zionism presented in the political debate.
I view Zionism in terms of a secular elitist agenda of inciting war for political gain through exclusionist racist violence under guise of establishing and protecting a homeland for Jews, while in fact using the Jews to advance that secular elitist agenda.
This idea is well presented by various religious Jewish groups and seems to be clearly presented by supposed quotes of historical Zionists:

Yitzchak Greenbaum, a famous Zionist, proclaimed that “one cow in Palestine was worth more than all the Jews in Poland.”
The infamous David Ben-Gurion said in 1938: “If I knew it was possible to save all the children in Germany by taking them to England, and only half of the children by taking them to Eretz Israel, I would choose the second solution. For we must take into account not only the lives of these children but also the history of the people of Israel.”
Zionist “religious” leader, Rabbi Klaussner, who was in charge of displaced persons presented a report before the Jewish American Conference on May 2nd, 1948: “I am convinced people must be forced to go to Palestine…For them, an American dollar appears as the highest of goals. By the word “force”, I am suggesting a programme. It served for the evacuation of the Jews in Poland, and in the history of the ‘Exodus’… To apply this programme we must, instead of providing ‘displaced persons’ with comfort, create the greatest possible discomfort for them…At a second stage, a procedure calling upon the Haganah to harass the Jews.”
– http://www.truetorahjews.org/naziismzionism

Are all such individual quotes 100% accurate?
I can imagine not.
Yet the sentiment, the over-arching philosophy, appears to come quite clear by exploring various links without shutting down one’s mind to opposing ideas.
By remaining open we can connect the dots to achieve a broader picture.
There is more to this story than the politically correct narrative of Zionism being a benevolent simple wish that Jewish people can have a safe homeland.
There appears to be a secular elitist agenda that discards the welfare of both Jews and non-Jews.

“the philosophy and goals of the Zionist movement resulted in the deaths of millions of innocent Jews” – http://israelversusjudaism.org/holocaust/index.cfm

It is that collective fascist socialist elitist ideology that emerges as the essential malevolence linking various crimes against humanity including Maoism, Marxism, Nazism, ISIS..ism, and Zionism.. and British Imperialism.
In fact, the secular Zionist elitist agenda appears to have explicit ties to British Imperialism as explained on http://www.al-moharer.net/falasteen_docs/regina_sharif.htm

Defining Naziism

Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialism_(disambiguation)) gets us off to a good start in understanding the essential aspects of Naziism by specifying its roots as ‘National Socialism’ and stating:

The term “National Socialism” was used by a number of unrelated groups before the Nazis

Naziism as I view it was a similar secular elitist agenda to gain political power based on an ideology of collectivism and socialism, where the individual matters less than the group.
Leonard Peikoff’s book The Ominous Parallels, 1982 (http://www.peikoff.com/lr/home.htm), apparently establishes the similarities of American political trends with those of Nazi’s rise to power.
National Socialism is the idea of excluding other groups for the benefit of one’s own identified national group.
In Germany, this rise of force-backed collectivism latched on to various victims to be presented through propaganda as caused to the populations plight. The targets included Gays, Gypsies, Semites of all kinds.
As a side note: Whilst having not explored supporting references for the following point, there is another interesting link showing that Naziism took anti-jewish ideas straight from early Zionists themselves:

Jacob Klatzkin is quoted as having said: “We Jews are aliens… a foreign people in your midst and we… wish to stay that way. A Jew can never be a loyal German; whoever calls the foreign land his Fatherland is a traitor to the Jewish people“.
At the Nuremberg Trials Nazi propagandist Julius Streicher testified: “I did no more than echo what the leading Zionists had been saying”

Naziism then grew it’s collectivist exclusionist malevolent ideology to violently expel or eliminate their perceived threats in its quest to take over the entire world by military might and become the worlds rulers.

Comparing Zionism with Naziism

So with our general definitions outlined above, we can begin to compare the two.
First, read https://desertpeace.wordpress.com/2008/04/16/why-zionism-nazism-comparisons-are-legitimate/
On which he makes a lot of comparisons, each one warranting consideration.
As example:

The Gestapo savaged, brutalized and starved Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto to break their collective will, and Israel has been doing the same to Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank

Is that statement in any way true, that Israel has been doing the same to Palestinians? Here’s one article that seems to validate the notion: http://electronicintifada.net/content/israels-starvation-diet-gaza/11810
There are many others available by a simple Google search.
Another quote from DesertPeace:

The Nazis imprinted serial numbers on the forearms of Jewish internees, and the Israelis have done the same to the Palestinians.

Regarding which I found this page http://electronicintifada.net/content/israels-auschwitz-borders-revisited/7847 which includes:

The late Tommy Lapid, justice minister in Ariel Sharon’s government, caused an uproar in 2004 when he said that images of an elderly Palestinian woman in Gaza “crouching on all fours, searching for her medicines in the ruins of her house” demolished by the Israeli army reminded him of his own grandmother who perished at Auschwitz. Lapid compared the Israeli army’s writing of numbers on the arms and foreheads of Palestinian prisoners to the Nazi practice of tattooing concentration camp inmates. “As a refugee from the Holocaust I find such an act insufferable,”

The Truth

I do not have first hand experience of any observable facts on any of this. Photos can be doctored or mis-labeled. Sequences of events can have occurred quite contrary, even opposite, to what is presented by various agencies.
Yet simple principled conclusions can be assumed once you explore topics sufficiently to reach a wider context of insight.
This includes understanding political process, propaganda as well as religious and secular elitist agendas.
Even from an orthodox religious jewish perspective there seems to be a lot of support for the ideas of:
a) Separating the ideology of ‘Zionism’ from being widely accepted within the jewish community

Lubavitcher Rabbi Sholem Schneersohn: “It is surely clear that the Zionists not only are not approaching Judaism, but that they entirely destroy Jewish souls intentionally.” – http://www.realnews247.com/spec_rpt_jews_against_zionism.htm

b) Comparing the apparent ideologies and/or modus operandi of naziism with zionism as outlined in various links provided on this page.
The ultimate point of taking the time to present this perspective is echo’d in this statement:

We urge the unaware public to act now in aid of the suffering and not to abandon it to historians for future judgment. – http://israelversusjudaism.org/comparison/index.cfm

For justice, we must recognize human suffering across group identities, including the suffering of both religious jews who oppose the Zionist secular state of Israel as well as the suffering of innocents in Palestine.

First they came…

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

– Martin Niemöller

Turning a blind eye to injustice only invites history to repeat. And two wrongs don’t make a right.
Uphold the rights of every individual human being equally across time and space: The right to autonomy and earned/traded property.
Do not accept guns-and-fists wielded against any individual ever, be it in Germany, Israel, Palestine, Gaza, London, Kazakhstan.
Ultimately, break down the physical apartheid walls of Berlin, South Africa and Israel while simultaneously breaking down the ideological walls of elitist exclusionist collectivism.
That’s the only path to Justice, as bitter tasting as it may be.

  1. First step, eliminate the secular elitist Zionist agenda from Israeli politics
  2. Second step, expose and work to stop all initiations of force and expose any doctrines of malevolence coming from extremist Islamic as well a Jewish sources
  3. Third step, increase genuine safety measures and then return lands stolen or forcibly acquired in war to previous owners since before the initiation of Zionist intervention in Israel/Palestine
  4. Fourth step (pragmatic): Let 2 States exist, but not physically separate and isolated, let them exist as with open borders, as neighbours, as Jews and Palestinians had done before the Zionist interventions in many arabic countries across the middle east for hundreds of years.

More links:

Finally, the poignant words of Holocaust survivor Hajo Meyer:


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